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Magdalen's avatar

One area where I have found shame to be damaging is with respect to failings that are habitual. If I do something like snap at a family member, I feel shame which is productive, because it's relatively easy to apologize and do better next time. When it comes to my more habitual failings, like procrastination, I think these failings are so ingrained in me at this point that the progress I expect to make is only incremental. So that puts me in a weird loop where I procrastinate, feel shame, but can only expect to procrastinate a bit less tomorrow.... but that's still procrastination and still causes shame.

Perhaps the right perspective is that for some failings, I need a healthy dose of shame so that I can do better. For other, more engrained, failings, what I primarily need is the affirmation of actually *believing* I can do better, and it's hard for that to coexist with the "punishment" of shame that even accompanies incremental progress. Or another way to put it is that shame is only useful when I am grounded in the belief that I actually can do better, which many people in the throes of habitual failings or addictions don't have yet.

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Rosamund Hodge's avatar

I don’t disagree with you, but I would also consider shame to be one of the passions, and so while it can be an appropriate and virtuous response to certain situations (like anger at injustice, or sexual desire for one’s spouse), I think it is also something that can be addictive, and needs to be restrained.

It’s probably also worth parsing out exactly what we mean when we say “shame.” There’s the shame of “I did something wrong even though I have the capacity to do better,” and then there’s the shame of “I did something wrong and now I am DISGUSTING AND WORTHLESS FOREVER.” Not to mention there’s “shame” as a transitive verb, where the real sting is not what you did but how others treat you for it! All those are very different things.

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