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Katha Pollitt's avatar

So if only 25 doctors, or 15 or 5 are prosecuted, Leah, you win? Or if they are charged but the charges are eventually dropped, after putting them through Hell and destroying their careers, you win? Or if they are neither convicted or charged, but fired,sending a message to other doctors, you win? There is something so blithe and heartless about this bet. Women have ALREADY died or been terribly injured because they've been denied medical care. How many before you take in what is happening in this country? When abortion was illegal in Ireland, SOME women, I'm told, got life-saving care regardless, but Savita Halappanavar was allowed to die of sepsis because her fetus still had a heartbeat. And the "Pro-lifers" never admitted that the law had anything to do with it.

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Frances Kissling's avatar

Well, Katha, you have made Leah's day, recognition from a world renowned feminist on abortion! However, Leah has gone on to simply not hear what you and a few others have said. Leah, you are a professional facilitator who works with people who disagree on a range of issue, yet in response to Katha and others on the matter of what they see as a crass, unsensitive use of a bet, you moved immediately and repeatedly to defend the betting. Defending never helps fix even a benigh misunderstandingI think there was things you could have learned if you used your professional skills. Take a deep beath and just listen with a goal of figuring out where you might have gone wrong; where in such a charged issue, with deep polarization betting was not helpful to anyone. Perhaps an apology is in order.

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